The Hobson and Holtz Report – Podcast #49: July 11, 2005

Content summary: Listeners’ comments (on credibility, trust and relationships; bloggers should ask first; get over show length; speed up the blog; iTunes and subscribing to the show); iTunes, podcasting and RSS concerns; countering a view that podcasts are a fad; the London bombings and the milestone role of citizen journalism; what African bloggers say about Live8; from Our Correspondent Down Under; the Ketchum saga continues.

Show notes for July 11, 2005

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Welcome to For Immediate Release: The Hobson & Holtz Report, a 60-minute conversation recorded live from Amsterdam, The Netherlands, and Washington, DC, USA.

Download the file here (MP3, 27MB), or sign up for the RSS feed to get it and future shows automatically. (For automatic synchronization with your iPod or other digital player, you’ll also need a podcatcher such as the free iPodder, DopplerRadio or iTunes 4.9, or an RSS aggregator that supports podcasts such as FeedDemon).

In this edition:


  • 00:31 Neville introduces the show; how to give your feedback; show notes; what’s in this edition

Listeners’ comments discussion:

  • 02:16 Craig Jolley on credibility, trust and relationships when talking to bloggers and journalists – what’s now fair game on disclosing information?
  • 06:59 Susan Getgood says a blogger should always ask first before blogging a conversation with a friend – understanding the rules of engagement today
  • 08:34 On show length, Susan also says this show’s long and quite good – get over it if you have a problem with length
  • 09:25 Lee Hopkins wants the podcast blog home page to open far more quickly, so Shel obliges
  • 10:28 Ron Shewchuk likes iTunes 4.9 and subscribes there to this show

News and Features:

  • 11:52 iTunes and podcasting – concerns for podcasters on Apple’s proprietary RSS requirements
  • 15:03 While Dave Taylor thinks podcasts won’t help promote your business, saying it’s all a fad, Shel and Neville outline why they think it can and how it’s not a fad
  • 29:36 The London bombings – Neville comments on his experiences in London last Thursday
  • 32:43 The role and contribution of citizen journalism in times of tragedy – the London bombings are a major milestone in the symbiosis between mainstream media and citizen journalists
  • 38:42 Live8 and what bloggers in Africa have to say – cynical and dismissive commentaries, in large part – and getting those opinions heard
  • 43:07 From Our Correspondent Down Under: Lee Hopkins – on the London bombings, Adam Curry’s CastBlaster, OneNote for capturing thoughts and podcasting notes, saw-sharpening with FIR
  • 48:51 The Ketchum saga continues – their PR Week interview, Constantin Basturea’s analysis of it and how spin just doesn’t work


  • 54:07 Neville outros the show; how to give your feedback; show notes; next Thursday’s show is #50; the music

Links for the blogs, individuals, companies and organizations we discussed or mentioned in the show:

Listeners’ comments discussion – Craig Jolley, Charles Pizzo, Ross Mayfield, Richard Byrom, Susan Getgood, Lee Hopkins, Ron Shewchuk.

News and Features – iTunes, Adam Curry, Daily Source Code, RSS validators, Apple, Dave Winer, Todd Cochrane, Dave Taylor, Ask Dave Taylor, Dave Taylor’s podcast post, Podscope, Blinkx, Apple’s AAC file format, iPod, Windows Media Player, Audacity, Forrester Research report on Podcasting for Marketers, Adam Curry’s and Ron Bloom’s strategycast, Jupiter Research, GM podcasts, David Lawrence, Max Hansen, the London bombings, Sky News, Neville’s podcast on his London experiences, the Asian tsunami, CNN, Hurricane Dennis, BBC News, The Guardian, Fox News, Live8, Live8 bloggers in Africa, Bob Geldof, Bono, Lee Hopkins, CastBlaster, Sound Forge, Microsoft OneNote, Blogger, Ketchum, Constantin Basturea, The New PR Wiki Hot Issues Ketchum Timeline, PR Week, Steve Rubel.

Outro –, Naomi Rodriguez, Special, For Immediate Release, A Shel of My Former Self, NevOn.

If you have comments or questions about this show, or suggestions for our future shows, email us at, or call the Comment Line at +1 206 984 0931. You can email your comments, questions and suggestions as MP3 file attachments, if you wish (max. 5Mb attachment, please!). We’ll be happy to see how we can include your audio contribution in a show.

So, until Thursday July 14…

(Cross-posted from For Immediate Release, Shel’s and my podcast blog.)

4 thoughts on “The Hobson and Holtz Report – Podcast #49: July 11, 2005

  1. I think I somehow got last weeks’ podcast through iTunes this morning. I’m going to download this one from here. but you might want to check it out.

  2. Mary-Ann, thanks for pointing that out.
    I think it could be that the iTunes directory might be taking a while to list podcasts on a timely basis.
    The latest show MP3 was finalized late last night (my time), so perhaps it wasn’t in the iTunes listing when you went to get it this morning your time.
    I’ve just checked the iTunes directory again from within iTunes – and it is downloading the latest show, ie, this one, #49.
    So I think it was just a timing issue. Nevertheless, we’ll check into it just to know what Apple’s timing actually is for when new shows appear in the iTunes download directory.

  3. Congratulations on a brilliant podcast; definitely my favourite. You’re insightful and enthusiastic. I’ve listened to three of your shows, and re the length, they’re exactly right. I listen at my computer while I’m doing boring junk like sending out invoices.
    Regarding the comment about iTunes, I think there’s a bug. I tried to update to your latest show and got the July 4 podcast. I had to download the MP3 manually, and drag it into iTunes.
    Keep up the great work. 🙂
    All best wishes

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