The Hobson and Holtz Report – Podcast #78: October 20, 2005

Content summary: Splogs and Blogspot, questionable observations from IABC’s Canada conference, an intimidating panel, a new publisher lawsuit against Google, LA Podcasters’ Freeway Series, Dan York’s contribution, a fake Harriet Miers blog, two blogging studies, listener comments, and more.

Show notes for October 20, 2005

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Welcome to For Immediate Release: The Hobson & Holtz Report, a 65-minute discussion recorded live from Chicago, Illinois, USA, and almost live from Amsterdam, The Netherlands.

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Sorry, no OPML show outline this week…perhaps we’ll get to them later.

In this Edition:


  • 00:00 A shoutout from Christopher Bennett
  • 00:49 Shel introduces the show; what’s in this edition; how to give your feedback; show notes

Listeners’ comments discussion:

  • 02:53 Dave Traynor on the FIR logo (it’s not appearing for him, or us either) and the Google/ splot controversy
  • 04:56 Lee Hopkins likes our new blog banner
  • 05:04 Sallie Goetch comments on the word “digitalization” (say it three times fast)
  • 06:24 Dan York also has thoughts on “digitalization”
  • 06:52 Sallie’s back with thoughts on “disintermediation”
  • 07:35 Lee Hopkins is glad Sallie Goetch is here
  • 07:44 Glenn Slaven with an idea for transcribing FIR on a wiki
  • 08:53 Fred Zelders updates on the OPML search engine
  • 09:22 Lloyd Grosse on Aussie references


  • 11:03 Neville fills us in on why he’s in Brussels
  • 14:05 Neville on splogs and
  • 18:56 Shel defends Neville’s 17-minute segment
  • 19:30 Comments from speakers at the IABC Canada conference
  • 28:37 Big-time publishers sue to stop Google Print
  • 31:44 Eric Schwartzman and LA Podcasters plan “live” podcast event



  • 57:19 Shel reminds you about comments, show notes, and upcoming programming on FIR
  • 58:27 Shel intros the podsafe music via – Round One from Evan Tate

FIR Show Notes links
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So, until Monday, October 24…

(Cross-posted from For Immediate Release, Shel’s and my podcast blog.)